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Num
35603
Date
Monday November 30, 1992
Amj
Taille
139908
Titre
Rwandan Mod Chief of External Intel on Burundi, Uganda and Arusha
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Lieu cité
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Mot-clé
Cote
KIGALI 04926
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CHP
Type
Document diplomatique, TD
Langue
EN
Citation
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FM AMEMBASSY KIGALI
TO SECSTATE WASHDC 2374
INFO AMEMBASSY BRUSSELS
AMEMBASSY BUJUMBURA
AMEMBASSY DAR ES SALAAM
AMEMBASSY KAMPALA
AMEMBASSY PARIS
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E.O. 12356: DECL: OADR
TAGS:
PREL, MOPS, RW
SUBJECT: RWANDAN MOD CHIEF OF OF EXTERNAL INTEL ON
BURUNDI, UGANDA AND ARUSHA
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2. SUMMARY: THE RWANDAN MOD CHIEF OF EXTERNAL
INTELLIGENCE SEES HIMSELF AS THE POINT MAN FOR
CONFIDENCE BUILDING WITH BURUNDI. HE HAS EXPRESSED
AN INTEREST IN MEETING WITH HIS COUNTERPART IN
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KAMPALA FOR THE SAME PURPOSE. HE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH
PROGRESS IN POLITICAL NEGOTIATIONS IN ARUSHA, THE
FRENCH ROLE IN RWANDA, AND RPF MEMBERS OF THE NEUTRAL
MILITARY OBSERVER GROUP (NMOG). END SUMMARY.
POINT MAN WITH BURUNDI

3. LT. COL. RUTAYISIRE LAURENT, DIRECTOR GENERAL AT
THE MOD FOR EXTERNAL INTELLIGENCE AND SECURITY,
INVITED EMBOFF AND AF/RA POL/MIL ADVISOR LT. COL.

UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF STATE
REVIEW AUTHORITY: CHARLES L DAMS
DATE/CASE ID: 22 SEP 2008 200103014

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ANTHONY MARLEY TO DINNER ON NOV. 29, 1992. DURING
THE 3 AND ONE HALF HOUR MEETING, RUTAYISIRE HELD
FORTH ON A VARIETY OF TOPICS. ON BURUNDI, HE GAVE A
READOUT ON HIS MEETING IN BUJUMBURA WITH HIS
COUNTERPARTS ON NOV. 27 AND 28. THE MAIN TOPIC OF
CONVERSATION WAS BURUNDIAN FEARS THAT RWANDA IS
TRAINING PALIPEHUTU TERRORISTS.

4. HE STATED THAT IT IS NOT IN RWANDA'S INTERESTS TO
ALLOW THE PALIPEHUTU TO USE RWANDA AS A BASE FROM
WHICH TO LAUNCH ATTACKS INTO BURUNDI. AS AN EXAMPLE
OF HOW EVENTS IN RWANDA CAN BE MISINTERPRETED AS
BEING THREATENING TO BURUNDI, HE GAVE A DETAILED
ACCOUNT OF AN INCIDENT ON NOV. 11 IN NSHILI COMMUNE
WHICH THE BURUNDIS SAW AS EVIDENCE OF PALIPEHUTU
ACTIVITIES NEAR THEIR BORDER, BUT WHICH THE RWANDANS
INSIST WAS AN ALMOST FARCICAL ATTEMPT BY RWANDAN
GENDARMES TO OBTAIN INTELLIGENCE ON THE PALIPEHUTU IN
THE AREA.
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5. RUTAYISIRE CLAIMS TO HAVE ESTABLISHED A SOLID AND
CONFIDENTIAL WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS
COUNTERPART IN BUJUMBURA (NAME NOT GIVEN). HE AGREED
THAT RWANDA'S AND BURUNDI'S FUTURES ARE TIED
TOGETHER, AND STATED THAT HE INTENDED TO MEET WITH
THE BURUNDIS EVERY TWO MONTHS TO KEEP THE LINES OF
COMMUNICATION OPEN, AS WELL AS TO ASSURE THAT MUTUAL
SUSPICIONS ARE DEALT WITH BEFORE THEY TURN INTO
INTERNATIONAL INCIDENTS.
POSSIBLE TO DO THE SAME IN KAMPALA?

6. THE COLONEL PUT FORTH THE IDEA THAT IT WOULD BE
USEFUL TO ESTABLISH A SIMILAR WORKING RELATIONSHIP
WITH HIS INTELLIGENCE COUNTERPARTS IN KAMPALA. HE
ASKED IF THE U.S. WOULD BE WILLING TO PRESENT SUCH AN
IDEA TO THE GOR AND GOU, STATING THAT IT WOULD BE
SEEN IN A BETTER LIGHT IF IT CAME FROM THE USG RATHER
THAN HIM. EMBOFF ASSURED HIM THAT THE IDEA WOULD BE
EXAMINED, AND THAT ANY MEASURE AIMED AT BUILDING
CONFIDENCE BETWEEN RWANDA AND UGANDA WOULD BE TREATED
POSITIVELY.

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ARUSHA POLITICAL NEGOTIATIONS

7. RUTAYISIRE SOUGHT FROM LTC. MARLEY A READOUT ON
THE STALLED NEGOTIATIONS IN ARUSHA (HE WAS A MEMBER
OF THE RWANDAN DELEGATION TO THE SECOND JPMC IN
ADDIS). MARLEY REITERATED THE RPF POSITION THAT THE
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POLITICAL BASIS FOR THE CONFLICT HAD TO BE ADDRESSED
BEFORE ISSUES OF FORCE INTEGRATION AND DEMOBILIZATION
COULD BE NEGOTIATED. RUTAYISIRE AGREED THAT THIS WAS
THE MOST LOGICAL ROAD TO TAKE. HE MADE THE
SURPRISING STATEMENT THAT, IF HE FOUND HIMSELF IN THE
SHOES OF THE RPF, HAVING BEEN EXILED FROM HIS COUNTRY
WITH NO HOPE OF EVER RETURNING, HE WOULD PROBABLY
TAKE UP ARMS AS WELL, AND INSIST ON MANY OF THE SAME
POINTS WHICH THE RPF HAS DEMANDED BE INCLUDED IN THE
PEACE ACCORD UNDER DISCUSSION.
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8. RUTAYISIRE STATED THAT THE GOF'S DEEP INVOLVEMENT
WITH THE GOR MILITARY MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO
BE SEEN AS A NEUTRAL MEDIATOR OR FACILITATOR IN THE
NEGOTIATIONS. HE DISCOUNTED AS WELL THE BELGIANS,
SAYING THAT THEIR OWN INTERNAL POLITICAL
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DISORGANIZATION MADE IT DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO TAKE
DECISIONS OR PLAY A VERY ACTIVE ROLE. LTC. MARLEY
NOTED THAT THE NMOG WOULD BE EXPECTED TO REPORT ON
THE ROLE OF FOREIGN TROOPS IN RWANDA AT THE NEXT JPMC
MEETING. EMBOFF ASKED IF THE GOR WOULD BE WILLING TO
ACCEPT THE DEPARTURE OF THE FRENCH TROOPS IN RWANDA,
IN KEEPING WITH THE FIRST ARUSHA PROTOCOL.
RUTAYISIRE RESPONDED THAT THE ONLY ISSUE TO BE
DECIDED WAS WHETHER THE TROOPS' PRESENCE WAS GOVERNED
BY A BILATERAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT, AND STATED THAT
THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE CONTINGENT OF FRENCH
TRAINERS IN RUHENGERI AD THE PARATROOPS IN KIGALI
WAS ARTIFICIAL. IN ANY CASE, HE FELT THAT THIS WAS
ALL JUST SMOKE FROM THE RPF, AND SOMEHOW NOT REALLY
CENTRAL TO THE ISSUE OF FRENCH INVOLVEMENT IN RWANDA.
RPF MEMBERS OF THE NMOG

9. WHEN THE TOPIC OF THE RPF MEMBERS OF THE NMOG
CAME UP, RUTAYISIRE STATED THAT THEIR CHIEF OF
DELEGATION, SENIOR OFFICER KAREKE KARENZI, HAD BEEN

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CONSISTENTLY COMBATIVE AND PROVOCATIVE IN HIS
BEHAVIOR SINCE HIS ARRIVAL. WHERE OTHER RPF/NMOG
MEMBERS HAD BEEN ABLE TO INTEGRATE THEMSELVES INTO
THE FORCE, AND INTO THE COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY HAVE
BEEN WORKING, KARENZI'S BEHAVIOR HAD BEEN
UNACCEPTABLE. HE IS ACCUSED OF THREATENING PEOPLE
WITH HIS WEAPON, BLOCKING PROGRESS IN NMOG MEETINGS,
AND WITH ANTAGONIZING THE FRENCH MILATT. (POST NOTES
THAT NMOG COMMANDERS, AS WELL AS THE GOR CHIEF OF
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DELEGATION, HAVE MADE NO MENTION OF THESE PROBLEMS TO
THE EMBASSY.)
10. COMMENT: RUTAYISIRE WAS RELAXED AND TALKATIVE
THROUGHOUT THE MEETING. HE PROJECTED THE IMAGE OF
BEING RATIONAL AND REASONABLE, TO THE POINT OF
SYMPATHIZING WITH RPF POSITIONS AND PROBLEMS. WHILE
HE DEVOTED CONSIDERABLE TIME TO HIS EXPLANATION OF
RWANDA/BURUNDI RELATIONS, FOR THE REST HIS GOAL
SEEMED MORE TO RENEW HIS ACQUAINTANCE WITH LTC.
MARLEY. HE DID NOT SEEM PARTICULARLY WELL INFORMED
AS TO THE DAY-TO-DAY MEANDERINGS OF THE ARUSHA
PROCESS.
11. AS A SIDELIGHT, POST NOTES THAT WHEN EMBOFF AND
LTC. MARLEY FIRST MET RUTAYISIRE AT KIGALI AIRPORT ON
NOV. 27, HE WAS THERE TO MEET THREE WHITE SOUTH
AFRICANS ARRIVING FROM KENYA. DURING OUR SUBSEQUENT
MEETING WITH THE RPF IN BYUMBA (REPORTED SEPTEL)
SENIOR OFFICER KARENZI TOLD EMBOFF THAT THE GOR WAS
MEETING WITH THE SOUTH AFRICANS TO DISCUSS FURTHER
ARMS PURCHASES, AND TO EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF
RECRUITING SOUTH AFRICAN "MERCENARIES" TO ASSIST IN
THE TRAINING OF GOR FORCES. WHILE ARMS NEGOTIATIONS
ARE LIKELY, POST SERIOUSLY DOUBTS THE "MERCENARY"
ANGLE. END COMMENT.
12. LTC. MARLEY CLEARED ON THE TEXT OF THIS MESSAGE.
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